[FRIAM] Mysticism: still effing the ineffable?

[steve smith]

glen -

     >I would reduce your 7 types to just the 2: (1) and (3). I like
    Eric's idea that the term is mostly used as a placeholder, but it
    doesn't feel like a definition. It sounds more schematic

I appreciate both of these points... 5 (placeholder) definitely fits 
"schematic" over "defining"..

>     >I'm confident such a reduction is peculiar to me (e.g. not really
>     believing in intersubjectivity, experiential, linguistic, and
>     especially participatory would all be mediated by formality). 
>
I think your reduction is probably widely held among this group up to a 
point.  I'm a hair-splitter by constitution so resist reductions or 
re-fray them at the first opportunity, but understand that others might 
not, and might not for very good reasons that I don't (always) share.

I find "intersubjective" particularly useful and "participatory" 
particularly compelling and agree that the more these are *formalized* 
the more useful/compelling they might become, but I don't see their 
subjectivity and contingency collapsing into the same kind of 
ontic/objectivity that Scientific Realism is grounded in?

- steve





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