[FRIAM] fat tails
steve smith
sasmyth at swcp.com
Thu Mar 20 14:40:16 EDT 2025
Frank -
>
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> This should be a link to a paper which gives background on Markov
> Blankets:
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> http://reports-archive.adm.cs.cmu.edu/anon/home/anon/usr/ftp/cald/abstracts/04-102.html
thanks for the background and your personal stake in the topic...
My (current) interest is specifically in the context of models of
consciousness ala Solms and Friston:
https://www.fil.ion.ucl.ac.uk/~karl/NRN.pdf
https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/10057681/1/Friston_Paper.pdf
I'm toying with the question of how Friston's application of Markov
Blankets and Tononi's IIT/Phi play together in the emergence of
collective consciousness.
I think in particular, the point is that MBs represent an *emergent*
partitioning arising from active inferencing and how Phi perhaps can be
used to recognize the emergence of higher-order self-organization in
systems of systems. Unfortunately I am
under(focused/disciplined/prepared) to really formalize or nail this
down very well. Fortunately the ever-easier access to academic
progress and the aid of LLMs to find and correlate them allows me to
careen along finding serendipitous correlations among disparate
thinkers/fields, even if I can't render much formal coherence out of my
coalescing intuition.
I responded to Glen's response in a separate thread (now discarded) with
more detail about my intuition but think it might read more like noise
than signal. His point, about the distribution of POVs within the
superposition of many artifacts (corpora) being precious (my words, not
his) and that an LLM, even with clever prompting may be more of a
"muddying" than a "clarifying".
I fear the first but hope for the latter. LLMs and their non-textual
siblings may well be little more than a mudhole, not a clear wellspring.
- Steve
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