[FRIAM] Way off topic

steve smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Mon Mar 24 14:25:36 EDT 2025


> Steve:
> Do all your friends and neighbors have the Red Cards no matter their 
> status? In fact, probably all of us should be carrying them.
> T.

For the most part,  we operate on a don't ask, don't tell basis.   The 
only folks with known status to me are those who have achieved a full 
green-card status after years of temporary work stints, etc.   The rest 
are likely under various radars.   Often there is an adult child, likely 
born in the USA who is peripherally involved. My Spanglish is good 
enough to negotiate lots of work and social situations but nothing as 
sensitive as legal immigration status and I stay far away from those 
discussions as a matter of respect.   I try to telegraph that I am an 
ally but don't belabor it.

https://www.ilrc.org/red-cards-tarjetas-rojas#item-4477 
<https://www.ilrc.org/red-cards-tarjetas-rojas#item-4477>

I grew up with kids whose parents (more often grandparents) did not 
speak English.  Not because they had immigrated from MX but because 
their ancestors lived in the territory which became the US while they 
lived there.   In the mountains Western NM, some of the parents (born in 
the early 1900s) were raised in Spanish-only households among 
Spanish-only social/family networks.   The kids grandparents likely were 
children when their families immigrated to the area from the Rio Grande 
valley after the Civil War (when the newly formed/available US Cavalry 
rounded up or killed the native Apache living in the area).

  In Southern (Douglas) AZ, many of these families had equal 
representation on both sides of the border that was drawn with the 
Gadsden Purchase.   Some living on the MX side may have been deported 
there during the 1st world war or depression when there were attempts to 
displace "mexicans" from the US without due process.   May have been 
part of the "alien enemies" act activities of the time.

I think the Gadsden purchase included the Mesilla Valley in NM (nod to 
REC) but in my case it was the region south of Tucson in AZ.


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