[FRIAM] The entropy of thought

[glen]

Why isn't Lorenz in there somewhere? Seems like an obvious candidate.

On 5/29/25 8:13 AM, steve smith wrote:
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>> < The interesting question is where exactly does the deterministic system turn into something nondeterministic, and how?>
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>> It doesn’t.  A deterministic system is a deterministic system.
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> who might have first made the distinction : "deterministic but not pre-stateable"?
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> George offered:
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> Year 	Thinker 	Conceptual Expression
> 1931 	Kurt Gödel 	Incompleteness: truths not derivable
> 1936 	Alan Turing 	Halting problem: uncomputable predictions
> 1970s 	Heinz von Foerster 	Second-order cybernetics: unknowability of future
> 1991 	Robert Rosen 	Closure to efficient causation; entailment limits
> 1993 	Stuart Kauffman 	Adjacent possible; unprestatable evolution
> 2005 	Gregory Chaitin 	Incompressible but defined numbers (e.g., Ω)
> 
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