[FRIAM] The entropy of thought

steve smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Thu May 29 11:13:03 EDT 2025


> < The interesting question is where exactly does the deterministic 
> system turn into something nondeterministic, and how?>
>
> It doesn’t.  A deterministic system is a deterministic system.
>
who might have first made the distinction : "deterministic but not 
pre-stateable"?

George offered:

Year 	Thinker 	Conceptual Expression
1931 	Kurt Gödel 	Incompleteness: truths not derivable
1936 	Alan Turing 	Halting problem: uncomputable predictions
1970s 	Heinz von Foerster 	Second-order cybernetics: unknowability of 
future
1991 	Robert Rosen 	Closure to efficient causation; entailment limits
1993 	Stuart Kauffman 	Adjacent possible; unprestatable evolution
2005 	Gregory Chaitin 	Incompressible but defined numbers (e.g., Ω)

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