[FRIAM] Nick being irritating --

[glen]

Unfair? What do think "fair" means? Anyway, this was interesting:

https://oeis.org/A082977
"Key-numbers of the pitches of a Hypophrygian mode scale on a standard chromatic keyboard, with root = 0. A Hypophrygian mode scale can, for example, be played on consecutive white keys of a standard keyboard, starting on the root tone B. - James Ingram (j.ingram(AT)t-online.de), Jun 01 2003"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypophrygian_mode

On 9/10/25 7:39 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
> Yes. Thank you. I was beginning to fear i had asked an unfair q.  Gpt got it on the first pass and then went on to say some interesting things about mathematics and semantics
> Sent from my Dumb Phone
> 
> On Sep 10, 2025, at 10:25 AM, Matteo Morini <matteo at swarm.org> wrote:
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> 
> (Western) music involved? A C major and a mystery, possibly minor, scale respectively?
> 
> On 9/10/25 4:10 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
>> Next number in both series is one.
>> Sent from my Dumb Phone
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>> On Sep 10, 2025, at 9:42 AM, Roger Frye <frye.roger at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>  Von Neuman warned against high degree polynomial fitting. He said "With four parameters I can fit an elephant, and with five I can make him wiggle his trunk.”
>> Von Neumann's elephant <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann's_elephant>
>> en.wikipedia.org <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann's_elephant>
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>> <wikipedia.png>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann's_elephant>
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>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann's_elephant>
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>>> On Sep 10, 2025, at 7:08 AM, glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I figured it was one of these:
>>>
>>> https://oeis.org/search?q=1%2C3%2C4%2C6%2C8%2C9%2C10%2C13%2C15&language=english&go=Search
>>> https://oeis.org/search?q=1%2C3%2C5%2C6%2C8%2C10%2C12%2C13%2C15&language=english&go=Search
>>>
>>> Were it so, we'd need the next number {16,17} to tell the difference. But like many of Nick's riddles, I have no idea what he intended.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/9/25 8:40 PM, Jon Zingale wrote:
>>>> Sorry, 22. I needed to constrain the two systems. Too much linear algebra to want to explain, but yeah, Vandermonde and all that.
>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 9:22 PM Jon Zingale <jonzingale at gmail.com <mailto:jonzingale at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>    It's 29.
>>>>    I am assuming you are thinking of a polynomial that generates each sequence. Unfortunately, it's a 6th degree polynomial and so solving for the coefficients is a pain. You construct a Vandermonde matrix (V) a vector of dummy coefficients a = [a0, a1, ..., a6]. Then you solve for the coefficients relative to your sequence (S), V * a = S.
>>>>    Python helped nicely:
>>>>    import numpy as np
>>>>    n1 = np.array([0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6])
>>>>    y1 = np.array([1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12])
>>>>    coeffs1 = np.polyfit(n1, y1, 6)
>>>>    sol1 = np.polyval(coeffs, 7)
>>>>    n2 = np.array([0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6])
>>>>    y2 = np.array([1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10])
>>>>    coeffs2 = np.polyfit(n2, y2, 6)
>>>>    sol2 = np.polyval(coeffs, 7)
>>>>    =>29
>>>>    On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 3:17 PM Nicholas Thompson <thompnickson2 at gmail.com <mailto:thompnickson2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>        Sry. Should be all commas.
>>>>        Sent from my Dumb Phone
>>>>        On Sep 9, 2025, at 1:19 PM, Nicholas Thompson <thompnickson2 at gmail.com <mailto:thompnickson2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>        
>>>>        Here are two mathematical series
>>>>        1,3,5,6,8,10.12, __
>>>>        1.3.4,6,8,9,10, __
>>>>        Both have the same next number.
>>>>        Why, and what are we talking about here?
>>>>        I predict  that only Jon will guess the answer.
>>>>        Please dont trouble yourself with this if you have anything better to do.
>>>
>>>
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