[FRIAM] consent (was Re:New philosophy book)

Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Thu Aug 20 19:29:56 EDT 2026


Marcus wrote:
> Consent and dissent are socially constructed.

So much of human interest/relevance lives in the intersubjective reality 
(ISR) domain (which is only loosely coupled to any objective reality 
(OR) one might postulate).   perhaps ISR is a highly compressed 
abstraction of OR but it is the one most humans operate in most of the time?

>    The weak just don't get to exercise much consent and dissent.

Weak, or weakly situated?  Or is blunted/limited/constrained agency what 
"weakness" is?

> Sometimes agents lean to cooperate in some setting, and that's the practical point.
multi-scale cognition at the "next" level "up" from the individual 
organism?
>   Part of building cooperation is persuasion, and so ethics can enter there.  But ethics needn't enter.
> The structure of thing is the ability to sense, evaluate, and hit back (or have another agent do it on the agent's behalf).

surprisal minimization ala  Friston?





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