[FRIAM] consent (was Re:New philosophy book)

[Marcus Daniels]

Vulnerable might be a better word than weak..

> On Aug 20, 2026, at 4:31 PM, Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
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> Marcus wrote:
>> Consent and dissent are socially constructed.
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> So much of human interest/relevance lives in the intersubjective reality (ISR) domain (which is only loosely coupled to any objective reality (OR) one might postulate).   perhaps ISR is a highly compressed abstraction of OR but it is the one most humans operate in most of the time?
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>>   The weak just don't get to exercise much consent and dissent.
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> Weak, or weakly situated?  Or is blunted/limited/constrained agency what "weakness" is?
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>> Sometimes agents lean to cooperate in some setting, and that's the practical point.
> multi-scale cognition at the "next" level "up" from the individual organism?
>>  Part of building cooperation is persuasion, and so ethics can enter there.  But ethics needn't enter.
>> The structure of thing is the ability to sense, evaluate, and hit back (or have another agent do it on the agent's behalf).
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> surprisal minimization ala  Friston?
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