[FRIAM] on the obustness of globalism

[Owen Densmore]

Yup:

*POSTED:*JAN 31 2017 05:33PM EST

*UPDATED:*FEB 02 2017 09:38AM EST

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> wrote:

> Roger: thanks for catching that. It was added after I saw the tweet and
> the article. At least the False News was avoided, but sheesh, when do you
> know something like that is fully baked.
>
>    -- Owen
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Steve writes:
>>
>>
>> "I just hope he manages to do it without snapping off the masts and the
>> wheelhouse, and then careens overboard before he sinks the entire ship,
>> rats and all.  Maybe there IS an awesome, high-tech ship-of-state or
>> ship-of-society just over the horizon or beyond the fog of culture-wars
>> ready to sweep us up and jet us off into some unspecified utopian future,
>> but I'm not seeing it."
>>
>>
>> I mean:  All they know is their canoe, and somehow even though they see
>> all these other kinds of boats on the river, they can't imagine anything
>> but huddling in the center of their little canoe in the wind and rain.
>> Fellow canoers, let us build vessels with shelter!   No, you say?
>>
>>
>> At some point some subset will build those vessels, but they'll call them
>> arks.
>>
>>
>> Marcus
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Steven A Smith <
>> sasmyth at swcp.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 2, 2017 9:09:41 AM
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] on the obustness of globalism
>>
>>
>> Steve writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> "I learned early in life that if a canoe is tipping to one side, you
>> don't lean out the other, you drop to the bottom center, lower your center
>> of gravity.   Why is that so hard in sociopolitical contexts?  Unless you
>> want to tip into the drink!”
>>
>>
>>
>> Except that if we tip it over, we can swim over to that jet boat that is
>> a hundred meters away.   (See the thread on the 10 meter diving platform.)
>>
>> I think I get that part.... I grew up with a fascination with
>> post-apocalyptic worlds and sci-fi themes of transcendence.  I still have a
>> soft spot for it.  We have in our local circle (but surely not on this
>> list) a near-inner circle Singularian, the futurist/author Steven Kotler:
>> http://diamandis.com/abundance
>>
>> I put more stock in complexity thinking than exponential thinking.
>>
>> Your logic is the only hope I hold out for this Trumpian regime.  He is a
>> loose cannon who is in the process of clearing the deck of our ship of
>> state.  I just hope he manages to do it without snapping off the masts and
>> the wheelhouse, and then careens overboard before he sinks the entire ship,
>> rats and all.  Maybe there IS an awesome, high-tech ship-of-state or
>> ship-of-society just over the horizon or beyond the fog of culture-wars
>> ready to sweep us up and jet us off into some unspecified utopian future,
>> but I'm not seeing it.
>>
>> I also outgrew utopian fantasies when I realized they were a thin
>> disguise for a dystopia.   I'm still fascinated with the dual of
>> utopia/dystopia, but I'm not easily taken in by the idea that when you
>> can't react fast enough *already* to the things appearing on the road in
>> your headlights, that you should just *drive faster*.
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>
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