[FRIAM] query and observation
Steven A Smith
sasmyth at swcp.com
Thu Sep 12 14:17:10 EDT 2019
We love our "flocking" models but FRIAM is less of a
'birds-of-a-feather' group than something much harder to similize. It
feels to me that some of our conversations are a bit flocky or schooly
(rarely herdy) but others are more geophysical like flares or
eruptions... a good schoolyard "pileon" occasionally happens as well...
and then there are... as we are now contemplating, the long
dark-tea-times of our collective-soul.
On 9/12/19 10:04 AM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
> FRIAM is such a strange beast. At times full of philosophical
> discourse that flies far above my head, other times full of
> irreverent inanities that defy categorization, and occasionally even
> with something to do with complexity. And then the periodic deafening
> silence that makes me realize just how much I would miss it if it were
> to go away. Long live FRIAM.
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 10:45 AM Nick Thompson
> <nickthompson at earthlink.net <mailto:nickthompson at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
> Frank, Dave,
>
>
>
> Well I AM tied up with relocation issues, so haven’t been paying
> close attention, but …
>
>
>
> I just did a search in my inbox and there is nothing from FRIAM
> from 24 August on.
>
>
>
> I have always understood that the Friam-Owner. is like the wine
> pourer at a classical “symposium”, more or less watering the wine
> to maintain the flow and quality of the conversation. He won’t
> admit to it of course, but every once in a while He “shuts me off”
> from friam when He thinks I have become too … agitated? I assume
> He is also gently modulating your contributions in the same way,
> as a beneficent god should. I don’t know how He gets the time to
> do it, but nothing else could possibly explain the fact that
> sometimes our emails just go missing for a while. So, I didn’t
> get alarmed when I stopped receiving FRIAM correspondence in late
> August. I just assumed that the All Powerful Friam-Owner was
> giving me a rest.
>
>
>
> Thank you APF-O. We love you and worship you.
>
>
>
> Nick
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>
>
> Ps. Let me know if you don’t get this message. (};-\)
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:*Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com
> <mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com>] *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:02 AM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> <friam at redfish.com <mailto:friam at redfish.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] query and observation
>
>
>
> Dave,
>
>
>
> The Friam list remains as you can see but is sort of a trickle. I
> posted a couple of items about the Cooper/Colbert interview and
> something I can't remember but they weren't up to the high
> intellectual standard which engages you, Glen, Marcus, Nick, et
> al. Glen did comment insightfully. Nick will be back in Santa Fe
> soon; maybe the change in location will stimulate him.
>
>
>
> Frank
>
> -----------------------------------
> Frank Wimberly
>
> My memoir:
> https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly
>
> My scientific publications:
> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2
>
> Phone (505) 670-9918
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 12:42 AM Prof David West
> <profwest at fastmail.fm <mailto:profwest at fastmail.fm>> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Traffic on the FRIAM list seems to have ground to a halt, from
> my reception point in Amsterdam - i.e. I have seen nothing for
> some time. Not in spam filter, so question is has the list
> trickled to a stop or just not making it across the Atlantic.?
>
> Observation: an interesting coincidence arising from reading a
> new book, The Case Against Reality, How evolution hid the
> truth from our eyes, by Donald D. Hoffman, professor of
> cognitive science at UC Irvine. Main thesis is that what we
> perceive is but a constructed, via evolution, "interface" and
> not a veridical perception of "Reality."
>
> Not a new idea but the evolution / survival / fittest being
> the ones that see the optimal interface instead of what is
> behind the interface is interesting.
>
> Coincidence comes from simultaneously rereading Heidegger and
> Gadamer, and even some Peirce, and seeing apparent parallels
> between "interface,: "interpretation," and "experience."
> Feels like a lot of Nick's Monism convictions might be
> illuminated by looking at these works in juxtaposition.
>
> dave west
>
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