[FRIAM] query and observation

Steven A Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Thu Sep 12 14:17:10 EDT 2019


We love our "flocking" models but FRIAM is less of a
'birds-of-a-feather'  group than something much harder to similize.  It
feels to me that some of our conversations are a bit flocky or schooly
(rarely herdy) but others are more geophysical like flares or
eruptions...  a good schoolyard "pileon" occasionally happens as well...
and then there are... as we are now contemplating, the long
dark-tea-times of our collective-soul.

On 9/12/19 10:04 AM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
> FRIAM is such a strange beast. At times full of philosophical
> discourse that flies far above my head, other times full of
> irreverent inanities that defy categorization, and occasionally even
> with something to do with complexity. And then the periodic deafening
> silence that makes me realize just how much I would miss it if it were
> to go away. Long live FRIAM.
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 10:45 AM Nick Thompson
> <nickthompson at earthlink.net <mailto:nickthompson at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>     Frank, Dave,
>
>      
>
>     Well I AM tied up with relocation issues, so haven’t been paying
>     close attention, but …
>
>      
>
>     I just did a search in my inbox and there is nothing from FRIAM
>     from 24 August on. 
>
>      
>
>     I have always understood that the Friam-Owner. is like the wine
>     pourer at a classical “symposium”,  more or less watering the wine
>     to maintain the flow and quality of the conversation.  He won’t
>     admit to it of course, but every once in a while He “shuts me off”
>     from friam when He thinks I have become too … agitated?  I assume
>     He is also gently modulating your contributions in the same way,
>     as a beneficent god should.  I don’t know how He gets the time to
>     do it, but nothing else could possibly explain the fact that
>     sometimes our emails just go missing for a while.  So, I didn’t
>     get alarmed when I stopped receiving FRIAM correspondence in late
>     August.  I just assumed that the All Powerful Friam-Owner was
>     giving me a rest. 
>
>      
>
>     Thank you APF-O.  We love you and worship you. 
>
>      
>
>     Nick
>
>      
>
>     Ps.  Let me know if you don’t get this message.  (};-\)
>
>      
>
>     Nicholas S. Thompson
>
>     Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
>     Clark University
>
>     http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>      
>
>     *From:*Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com
>     <mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com>] *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly
>     *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:02 AM
>     *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>     <friam at redfish.com <mailto:friam at redfish.com>>
>     *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] query and observation
>
>      
>
>     Dave,
>
>      
>
>     The Friam list remains as you can see but is sort of a trickle.  I
>     posted a couple of items about the Cooper/Colbert interview and
>     something I can't remember but they weren't up to the high
>     intellectual standard which engages you, Glen, Marcus, Nick, et
>     al.  Glen did comment insightfully.  Nick will be back in Santa Fe
>     soon; maybe the change in location will stimulate him.
>
>      
>
>     Frank
>
>     -----------------------------------
>     Frank Wimberly
>
>     My memoir:
>     https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly
>
>     My scientific publications:
>     https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2
>
>     Phone (505) 670-9918
>
>      
>
>     On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 12:42 AM Prof David West
>     <profwest at fastmail.fm <mailto:profwest at fastmail.fm>> wrote:
>
>         Hello All,
>
>         Traffic on the FRIAM list seems to have ground to a halt, from
>         my reception point in Amsterdam - i.e. I have seen nothing for
>         some time. Not in spam filter, so question is has the list
>         trickled to a stop or just not making it across the Atlantic.?
>
>         Observation: an interesting coincidence arising from reading a
>         new book, The Case Against Reality, How evolution hid the
>         truth from our eyes, by Donald D. Hoffman, professor of
>         cognitive science at UC Irvine. Main thesis is that what we
>         perceive is but a constructed, via evolution,  "interface" and
>         not a veridical perception of "Reality."
>
>         Not a new idea but the evolution / survival / fittest being
>         the ones that see the optimal interface instead of what is
>         behind the interface is interesting.
>
>         Coincidence comes from simultaneously rereading Heidegger and
>         Gadamer, and even some Peirce,  and seeing apparent parallels
>         between "interface,: "interpretation," and "experience." 
>         Feels like a lot of Nick's Monism convictions might be
>         illuminated by looking at these works in juxtaposition.
>
>         dave west
>
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