[FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

Fri Jul 31 18:22:53 EDT 2020

When speaking of "temporally past", I assumed that for the majority of us
young whipper snappers who haven't yet reached 80 or 90 (I'm just shy of
62), that those ages would be in our temporal future. Of course with all
the quantum woo floating around the list, I hate to make any absolute
statements about what is the future, the past, or any other notion of time.
:-)

I applaud you for making the effort to volunteer to help teach kids in
schools that, I assume, perform poorly because of lack of resources and
motivated, creative teachers. I would be very interested to see what you
are doing. I have considered trying to do something here in rural Ecuador,
where I get the feeling that much of education is largely rote
memorization.

The first project I had in mind is to teach a bit about the solar system,
and how it relates to earth science. It has struck me that most kids, and
even a lot of adults here, have no understanding of seasonality or the
reason for it (Earth's tilt). Here on the equator, the main thing that
changes during the course of the year is the amount of rainfall. The amount
of light per day seems to vary only about 15 minutes over the course of the
year (the maxima being the Spring and Fall equinox, and the minima being
the Summer and Winter equinox). The difference between a daily high
temperature and the low for most days is about 5-10 degrees C, and this is
greater than the difference between the mean daily temperatures over the
course of a year. Unless a person here has either had a very good
education, or has lived in temperate regions, they think I'm joking when I
speak of daylight varying between 6 and 18 hours during the year, or
temperatures varying between -30 and +30 C between Winter and Summer. To be
fair, I suppose most of us from the temperate regions take the opposite for
granted.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 1:39 PM Edward Angel <angel at cs.unm.edu> wrote:

> Gary,
>
> Does temporally past the age of direct involvement  imply we’ll be more
> involved when we’re 80? or 90?
>
> Seriously though, I believe a lot can be accomplished by us old farts by
> being willing to get out of our comfort zones. A few years ago I would have
> never thought I’d be involved working with 4th-6th graders in the worst
> performing school in Santa Fe. But here I am making videos about CS ideas
> for the closed schools. Anyone who is willing to help can work with us
> through the SF Alliance for Science.
>
> Ed
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> On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Gary Schiltz <gary at naturesvisualarts.com>
> wrote:
>
> Well, you and Debbie are late bloomers.
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 1:03 PM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yep.  We are raising an 8 year old but he goes to private school.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:37 AM Gary Schiltz <gary at naturesvisualarts.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Probably the reason K-12 underfunding isn't addressed much here has to
>>> do with the fact that the list is populated by a high proportion of us old
>>> farts and fartesses :-) who are temporally past the age of direct
>>> involvement with K-12 and kids in general. I suspect that the more
>>> politically left-leaning, as well as many of the centrist-leaning
>>> inhabitants would support significantly higher and more evenly distributed
>>> funding of K-12 public education. I would make the same claim for health
>>> care spending. Ultimately, a modern society depends on a well-educated,
>>> healthy citizenry, which the USA seems determined to make a luxury.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:11 AM Angel Edward <edward.angel at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>> Nevertheless, what I see as the overriding issue that doesn’t get
>>>> addressed on this list is the underfunding of public K-12 schools. Whatever
>>>> position any of us might have as what we’d like to see at the college
>>>> level, it isn’t going to happen with the present situation of the public
>>>> schools.  As long as the public schools can’t provide an equal education
>>>> for all its students, we can’t expect the colleges to solve the educational
>>>> problem.
>>>>
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