[FRIAM] Indefinite Emergency Powers

[Gillian Densmore]

Two tests implies there are any tests, free and some number of people have
them though.  Hasn't anyone watched B Zombie flicks or silly ones like
attack of the tomaters? Have to have that stuff their to use, or (as is the
case now): omg omgomgomgomgomgomgogmogmog some coughed ruuuuun they
have...oh just a regular caugh.
It'd seem like without IMEI info being sent out into the wild it'd be
hardER to misuse phone location info for nefarius dude uses.  Is there a
reason for  needing two tests? I gather you can't (somewhat) indirectly
double check someone (or something ) moved  asking for a new random
location of that same ip or gps info?
Just curious.


On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM cody dooderson <d00d3rs0n at gmail.com> wrote:

> There is part of me that really sees the potential for misuse of power. At
> Simtable we are working towards a spread model that involves tracking
> peoples locations using their phones. Which would be bootstrapped by
> getting location history from sources like Google, Facebook, Pokemon-go,
> etc...  The US and Israeli governments have already verified that they
> gather accurate phone location histories.  I would really hate for the GOP
> or even the DNC to get that data 'though. What I am trying to say is that
> we are on a slippery slope, where tracking everyones location is common.
> There also seems to be doubt about how well this location data will work
> for fighting the covid-19 virus given the number of asymptomatic carriers.
> So far the best solution seems to be to test everyone, and then test them
> again.
>
> References:
> *
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/governments-havent-shown-location-surveillance-would-help-contain-covid-19
> *
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/scientists-say-mass-tests-in-italian-town-have-halted-covid-19
>
> Cody Smith
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 8:06 AM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Congress is smarter than that, even with it's Trumpian sycophants.
>>
>> ---
>> Frank C. Wimberly
>> 505 670-9918
>> Santa Fe, NM
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 5:26 AM Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hungary's authoritarian leader Orban wants to get indefinite emergency
>>> powers to fight the Virus.
>>>
>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-21/hungary-s-orban-seeks-indefinite-emergency-powers-in-virus-bill
>>>
>>> It reminds Germans of the "enabling act" 1933 which Hitler used to grab
>>> power. This law granted the leader the power to enact laws without the
>>> involvement of the p
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_(Weimar_Republic)>arliament,
>>> and made him a dictator.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933
>>>
>>> Trump will try something similar - a bill or amendment to the
>>> constitution that grants him indefinite and unlimited powers. Officially to
>>> fight the disease and to protect Americans. In reality to protect himself.
>>> Once he has this emergency powers, he will never give them back.
>>>
>>> https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023
>>>
>>> -J.
>>>
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