[FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve

[Frank Wimberly]

When I was on the faculty of the Robotics Institute at CMU our leader
(fearless?),Raj Reddy, said that robots are artifacts that sense, think,
and act.  Robots are just computers with sensors, including cameras, and
actuators.  The "thinking" is the hard part.

See

Raibert, Marc H. and Francis C. Wimberly.
      Tabular Control of Balance in a Dynamic Legged System.
      IEEE Transactions on Systems, Man and Cybernetics 14, 1984.


Frank


On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 10:31 AM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think you have just identified the problem with dualism.
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> Nicholas Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Steven A Smith
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2020 9:56 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve
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> Maybe I missed something that makes this redundant but if a highschool
> student asked me what the *hard problem* is I would say:  There appears
> to be no limit to how competent computers can be.  They seem to be able to
> do just about anything that people think requires thought.  But I am
> persuaded that they can't think.  What makes the difference between
> thinking people and hypercompetent computers?
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> Nick would say if it behaves as if it thinks then it thinks.  I think.
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> I think I think, therefore I think I am?    A real-world exercise in
> terminating tail recursion?  Waddya think?
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> Frank
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> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 7:50 PM Steven A Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
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> I thought this was a support group for recovering (or just
> self-indulgent) metaphorists... you mean it's not?   Why do I feel like
> I'm in a scene from "Fight Club"?   I guess that would make me more of
> an allegorist?
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> > Is it? You people can't help yourselves. It's compulsive. You might want
> to get some help for that.
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> > On 5/4/20 10:47 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> >> Choosing one's rifle is so concrete.  It makes me want to run out and
> blow away a few cacti.  Oh, it's a metaphor!
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