[FRIAM] water, again (was murder offsets)

[Merle Lefkoff]

There were others who understood back in 1987 (although very few) the
future catastrophic climate implications of BOTH kinds of development
strategy.

On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 1:54 PM Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm>
wrote:

> A personal experience that supports the more cynical / realistic posts in
> this thread: technology, capitalism, poverty, etc.
>
> In 1987 I was taking a graduate course in "development anthropology" and
> had to write a term paper on economic development in the Sudan (one of my
> professors was married to a woman from there). The proposal centered on
> solar power as the innovative tech and as an alternative to several planned
> hydro-power projects being planned. In addition to solar panels for local
> energy needs, the proposal included a framework for manufacturing 12-volt
> appliances, like refrigerators, lighting, heaters, toasters, kitchen
> appliances, etc. as well as computers. 80% of the manufactured goods were
> for export — to the, then, luxury RV market in the US and Europe. Huge net
> gain in Sudanese economy demonstrated.
>
> Prof sent the paper to a competition at the World Bank and I won a $2500
> prize. World Bank tried to get funding for the project from member nations,
> especially the US, but USAID vetoed the plan in favor of a multi-billion
> dollar hydro project that "just happened" to award construction money to US
> companies and incorporated technically obsolete generators and transformers
> for the inevitable, very wasteful transmission grid.
>
> davew
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2021, at 12:33 PM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote:
> > Yeah, when I incorporated back in '01, I did it in Oregon, knowing we
> > were likely to move there within a few years. All my advisors said that
> > was a mistake, that I should incorporate in Delaware or somesuch. I was
> > more libertarian, then. But even then, my ethos was to try to
> > contribute to my locale (network or geo). So incorporating in some far
> > flung place just doesn't seem right. Since we're still only 2 hours
> > from PDX, I figure it's still roughly local.
> >
> > Just this morning, I saw a van delivering groceries to the neighbors
> > <https://www.imperfectfoods.com/>. And although everything about it
> > sounds good, that they're based in CA makes me resist, perhaps in order
> > to find something *local*. We have a cool little store less than a mile
> > away that seems responsible and is owned by a long-term family in these
> > parts.
> >
> > On 4/19/21 11:18 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
> > > If the principals behind Redwood Materials INC are all upstanding
> long-time NV residents or there were something specifically obvious about
> their geography that makes them an obvious location for such an operation,
> then I can give that question a soft pass.   To be fair the principals
> listed on their website <https://www.redwoodmaterials.com/about> do seem
> to have honest credentials, albeit maybe weighted toward having come from
> places that acutely helped to create the problems they are promising to
> solve...
> >
> > --
> > ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ
> >
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Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
Center for Emergent Diplomacy
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