[FRIAM] Score one for Wokeism!

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 4 18:21:53 EST 2021


At the same time I saw this conversation between Glen and Marcus this
arrived in my inbox.  It's from The New Yorker's humor pages:


https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/ways-non-woke-people-from-history-tried-to-be-woke?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Humor_030421&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bea160d24c17c6adf1d90ff&cndid=26657004&hasha=03a68c161f5d16347943cf2195691293&hashb=806a12bf27a999679e133d98a8068fab3b194723&hashc=5a04768fafab49af2104ea98375511d11b19157e125fbac5ef8a7b339af771dd&esrc=auto_captionentrants&utm_term=TNY_Humor
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On Thu, Mar 4, 2021, 4:12 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> I do get a little tired of all of the back-and-forth media coverage and
> political posturing about democracy and fair play.   Of course it was the
> full court press to slow down Trump's administration when it started.   In
> this sense the current climate of polarization is more honest.   Of course
> we hate you guys, we always have..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ???
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 2:40 PM
> To: friam at redfish.com
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Score one for Wokeism!
>
> I'm working off this guy's accusation that Wokeism is a "pseudo-religion":
>
> https://hwfo.substack.com/p/science-says-sam-harris-is-alt-right
>
> I don't... but if you did take his nonsense seriously, then Wokeism is a
> broader ethical system than Antifa. Antifa seems to me to be more honestly
> anarchist, playing whack-a-mole with asymmetric power. Perhaps it depends
> on how one defines "democracy & fair play". Wokeism seems to be more about
> cultural engineering. I wouldn't expect the Woke to have a problem with the
> asymmetry between, say, Beyonce's voice and Richard Spencer's pathetic
> post-punch rants. Antifa, however, may one day turn on to the fascist
> imagery implicit in every group dance choreography (or the existence of
> "clap tracks" and autotuners in every modern pop song) and try to hammer
> down that peak a bit. One can dream.
>
> For the most part, because white cis men still have the overwhelming
> majority of all power in the US, Antifa and Wokeists should align nicely
> for the indefinite future.
>
> Of course, there's also an inter-personal difference. Wokeists, us being
> soft-handed snowflakes, aren't as likely as Antifa to bring body armor to
> the protests ... but you never know for sure.
>
> On 3/4/21 2:24 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> > What's the difference between an Antifa and a Wokeist?    I think it has
> something to do with a down-weighting on the importance of democratic
> representation & fair play?
>
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