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Tue Mar 9 17:10:28 EST 2021


Excellent point! But I thought there was some [post?] Marxist conception where the upper classes took some responsibility for the proles. [sigh] The problem with using "prole" is whoever reads/hears it might think I'm claiming to know more about class than I do. I should probably stick to words like "grunt" (Ground Roving Unit Network Terminator - https://churchofrobotron.com/).

Tangentially, this was a great read:

Book Review: Fussell On Class
https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/book-review-fussell-on-class

On 3/9/21 1:57 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
> I vote for prole(etarian) on the basis that it references the
> class-struggles of modern times better, even though along with plebe
> (plebeian) it has it's roots in Roman "Democracy".   I also think that
> the derived "precariat" gives it power-by-association insomuch that the
> connotation of "plebians" is that the "patrician" class seems to have
> accepted some responsibility for the various class roles in a similar
> way to the "patron/peon" relation that typifies feudalism.   A "prole"
> would seem to be more truly fodder for "the machine" and is in
> opposition to the "bourgeoisie" as much or more than the "nobility" or
> "aristocracy".
> 
> Of course, we have both words because they are both useful, I just think
> most of your examples fit "prole" more tightly than "plebe".


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