[FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Gillian Densmore gil.densmore at gmail.com
Tue May 4 19:27:30 EDT 2021


The simplest case for a UBI is current and past pandemics.  Simply put that
for some asinine reason our sense of maslow's hierarchy of needs has gone
tits up fucked.



On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 5:23 PM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> A couple of facts that relate to some of the points raised.
>
> I was following a car that had a bumper sticker that said, "Eat the Rich".
>
> A man paid $50 million for a penthouse (5 story) in Manhattan.  He
> committed suicide when he couldn't sell it for $35 million.  His wife
> wanted to live where she could have horses.  If anyone cares i can tell you
> who he was.
>
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> On Tue, May 4, 2021, 3:42 PM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I agree. But as the miscommunication about the dimension of
>> simplices vs. orthogonal dimensionality seems to indicate, reduction need
>> not imply linearity, and if reduction is used iteratively to discover
>> interestingness, that provenance/method/algorithm need not be lost (1st
>> order Markovian). A practical example might be
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projection_pursuit
>>
>> Like abstraction <-> concretization, there's de-objectification that's
>> part of a complete skill set. Competent objectifiers retain enough history
>> to at least approximate the starting point.
>>
>> On 5/4/21 1:37 PM, jon zingale wrote:
>> > """
>> > Reduction is a triumph if it captures what you're looking for.
>> > """
>> >
>> > When reductions capture what one is looking for then the resulting
>> > categories
>> > make for powerful rhetoric. IMO, it is exactly that reductions to crisp
>> > objects
>> > capture what *some* want, while obfuscating the desired objects of
>> others,
>> > that
>> > makes the whole reduction-objectification game so insidious in practice
>> (a
>> > kind
>> > of conceptual imperialism?). Sometimes objects can be presented with
>> such
>> > clarity
>> > and precision that it becomes difficult to imagine any others, to
>> dislodge
>> > unproductive beliefs or practices, or to remember that the objects are
>> > fantastic
>> > shorthands.
>>
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