[FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

thompnickson2 at gmail.com thompnickson2 at gmail.com
Thu May 6 16:05:43 EDT 2021


Glen, 

 

I was trying to start small  . think you are flat out wrong, by the way: I think the principle that “You do not get to say who I am” is deeply entrenched in the principles that 538 listed.

 

I am grateful for the list.  Let's work with it a bit.  See below. 

 

Nick Thompson

ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

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No, that's not a principle of Wokeism. It may be a reactionary misunderstanding of what's being said. (More likely it's an absurdist strawman, intended to help you *avoid* hearing what's being said.) But if you listen closer, you might actually hear what's being said. This article does a pretty good job of listing the drivers:

 

 <https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-ideas-that-are-reshaping-the-democratic-party-and-america/> https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-ideas-that-are-reshaping-the-democratic-party-and-america/

 

"    1. The United States has often not lived up to the ideals of its founders or the notion that it is an “exceptional” nation that should be a model for other countries. Because the U.S. has disempowered its Native and Black populations and women throughout its history, America has never been a true or full democracy[NST===>Agreed.  Furthermore, the myth of exceptionality arises just because we have had land to expropriate, and native Americans, African Americans, and immigrants to exploit.  See “These Truths” and “1493”<===nst] . 

    2. White people, particularly white men, are especially advantaged in American society (“white privilege”).

[NST===>Agreed<===nst] 

    3. People of color in America suffer from not only individualized and overt acts of racism (someone uses a racial slur, for example) but a broader “systemic” and “institutional” racism.

[NST===>Agreed<===nst] 

    4. Capitalism as currently practiced in America is deeply flawed, giving way too much money and power to the wealthy. America’s economy should not be set up in a way that allows people to accumulate billions of dollars in wealth.[NST===>Yes, but the focus on Billionaires tends to absolve the millionairs among us (weath, not salary) from responsibility.<===nst]  

    5. Women suffer from systemic sexism.

[NST===> Agreed, but we have to decide if women are different or not and what to do about it.<===nst] 

    6. People should be able to identify as whatever gender they prefer or not to identify by gender at all.[NST===>Really?  Are you sure.  If there are no gender roles, than what exactly does  gender mean?  There is surely some weird contradiction here.  <===nst] 

    7. The existence of a disparity — for example, Black, Latino or women being underrepresented in a given profession or industry — is evidence of discrimination, even if no overt acts of discrimination are visible.[NST===>Yes, and a large effort should be invested in tracking these disparities, and the new ones that will inevitably arise, and countering them, but see below …<===nst]  

    8. Black Americans deserve reparations to make up for slavery and post-slavery racial discrimination.

[NST===>Absolutely NOT!  We start in the middle, and we start now. We counter the discrimination  that we have right now.   Bugger the sins of our foreparents.  <===nst] 

    9. Law enforcement agencies, from local police departments to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, are designed to defend America’s status quo as much as any public safety mission. When they treat people of color or the poor badly, they are working as they are designed. So these agencies must be defunded, abolished, disbanded or at least dramatically changed if the goal is to improve their treatment of people of color and the poor.

[NST===>I am tantalized by the suggestion that the actual Idea of a modern police force grows out of the “paterollers” of the South<===nst] 

    10. Trump’s political rise was not an aberration or a surprise. Politicians in both parties, particularly Republicans, have long used racialized language to demean people of color — Trump was just more direct and crude about it. And his messages resonated with a lot of Americans, particularly white people and conservatives, because lots of Americans have negative views about people of color, Black people in particular."

[NST===>Agreed<===nst] 

 

 

On 5/6/21 12:07 PM,  <mailto:thompnickson2 at gmail.com> thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:

> One of the first principles of Wokery is that I get to say what you 

> call me, right?

 

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