[FRIAM] [dis]integrated

Marcus Daniels marcus at snoutfarm.com
Thu Oct 14 19:18:13 EDT 2021


The soldier has a lower upper bound on the execution time of their interrupt handlers.    The scout's are throwing futures all over the place and never getting around to scheduling or consuming the results.    Talk talk talk when they should be reaching for their weapon. 

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Well, it seems obvious to me (admittedly at risk of imputation or Dunning-Kruger) that we all have both modes in our repertoire. Maybe there are subsets of us who lean hard one way or the other. But I guess that just kicks the can down the road. Too much soldier ⇒ not recognizing when to switch to scout mode. And vice versa, like those pitiful truth-s[uc|ee]kers stuck in a conversation with a zero-sum logicbro.

It's error-correcting self-attention loops all the way down ... and up. And if you're not exercising your  low/fast interrupts (capsaicin , yoga, LSD, whatever), then you're probably not exercising your high/slow interrupts (active listening, abandoning pet theories, etc.). The idea that we can strengthen the high/slow interrupts without also strengthening the low/fast ones seems fideistic to me ... like telekinesis or somesuch.

Tangentially, I'm somewhat of a fan of Goertzel. But this worries me:

Evidence for Psi: Thirteen Empirical Research Reports
https://bookshop.org/books/evidence-for-psi-thirteen-empirical-research-reports/9780786478286

Maybe one of you has read it? I'm told it contains some fantastic nuggets about statistics, which makes me want a copy. And this video presents a good argument, regardless of the gist:

How I learned to love pseudoscience
https://youtu.be/bWV0XIn-rvY

But I worry about my own ability to switch from scout to soldier ... which is why the right-wing morons I talk to at the pub don't immediately murder me. Once they get to know me, they don't love me anymore.

On 10/14/21 3:29 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Even with a scout mentality there is the problem of modeling the deck of alternative scenarios that arise from uncertainty in a map.    The tendency to take imputed values for a set of unknown variables is a practical cognitive resource limitation that one can acknowledge or fail to acknowledge.    To challenge a person’s gut feeling -- all those imputed values -- and to observe the exasperation (even perceived persecution) that may result from the challenge is how I distinguish scouts from soldiers.   There are surely some tactical benefits to soldiers running toward the enemy with their bayonets to not spend a lot of time reflecting on how confident they are that the person they are running toward is their enemy.
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> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Jon Zingale
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:17 PM
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> 
> The Scout Mindset
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> https://bookshop.org/books/the-scout-mindset-why-some-people-see-things-clearly-and-others-don-t/9780735217553


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