[FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

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And vampire bats.  It's called social capitol.  

 

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Nick Thompson

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of David Eric Smith
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 10:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

 

I am amazed that the total extraction is only 85,000 tons/year now.  

 

If all vehicular transportation does go Li or Li-ion battery-based, we
really should be planning for all this to be integrated with
demand-buffering of the grid.  No reason to build a completely separate
parallel buffer bank using more Li while cars sit with batteries holding
charge as if it were gasoline, waiting for the next drive.  People will balk
because this kind of cooperative paradigm is something they are programmed
to reject anywhere they notice it.  But it has enabled the eusocial insects
to survive for a lot longer than humans have, so we should assume it will be
necessary and adopt as another project how to get people used to that fact.

 

Eric

 





On Sep 4, 2021, at 12:25 AM, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com
<mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com> > wrote:

 

For now there is the Salton Sea.

 

 
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From: Friam < <mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com> friam-bounces at redfish.com>
On Behalf Of Jon Zingale
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 8:05 AM
To:  <mailto:friam at redfish.com> friam at redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

 

Now that Afghanistan is prepped to be the Democratic Republic of Congo 2.0
(this time lithium rather than coltan), I suspect that the world is poised
for a whole new liberal dilemma:

1. Continue to support an oil industry largely responsible for rapid climate
collapse.

2. Switch to supporting a battery industry that will be largely responsible
for human trafficking/slavery and child labor.

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