[FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

uǝlƃ ☤>$ gepropella at gmail.com
Sun Sep 19 13:08:46 EDT 2021


No, I think you fully believe that. Where we disagree is that I think epiphenomena are purely an artifact of the formal language used. That means if your language is not formal, then you have no epiphenomena. All this informal talk you engage in, here, contains nothing like a well-defined thing we could name "epiphenomenon".

Take Frank up on reading the book on Lie groups or the Baez chapter. Or help Jon formalize it. Then, I think, we'll have a way to disentangle phenomena from epiphenomena ... and *then* we can falsify my claim that they don't validate against the real world.

On 9/19/21 8:22 AM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
>  Whether something is epiphenomenal or not is in the eye of the beholder.  Glen thinks I disagree with that, but I don’t.  Where we genuinely disagree, I think, is in
> the relative value of a life spent looking for frames that encompass other frames.  What might be an entertainment for him is kind of obsession for me. 

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