[FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Wed Sep 22 14:20:41 EDT 2021


On 9/22/21 12:00 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
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> Steve writes:
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> < Is it a single spectrum?   I propose a few components:
>
>  1. Self Exploration
>  2. Creativity Enhancement
>  3. Medicating for Social Anxiety
>  4. Medicating for Depression
>  5. Self Identity/Expression
>  6. Avoidance
>  7. ...
>
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> Being a vegan, for example, is an inconvenience and one will tend to
> impact a group.   Not participating in the hedonism around you will
> make you stick out. 
>
I was fairly pure vegetarian from age 14-32.  I eased out of
Vegetarianism by eating meat whenever it was served and not "sharing" my
vegetarianism overtly, it was definitely making me "stick out" and I
didn't enjoy the conversations I usually had around it with both
vegetarians and non-vegetarians.    I am now back to mostly vegetarian
with a lean toward veganism, based mostly on my broadening empathy with
all living things and my growing distaste for all things mega-industrial
(agri-industry, animal edition especially) and the implications for the
health of the biosphere (and maybe more acutely, the noosphere).   To
most, this probably just seems like knee-jerk bleeding-heart 
ned-ludd-channeling tedium.

My peers are no longer whigged by any dietary preference/restriction I
might express (though I try to keep my dietary preferences to myself). 
They don't even blink at anyone eschewing anything...  Alcohol, sugar,
gluten, caffiene,  meat products, animal products, orange colored food,
GMO, non-GMO, etc.   For health/vitality reasons, I have tried a number
of dietary restrictions (metabolism and inflammation related) so do
occasionally have to "eat around" what is served/offered as quietly as
possible (or more likely just stick to a green salad and water which is
almost always available and almost always fits any dietary restriction).

I'm surprised you would have no takers on a GMO-positive food club.  I
have a number of acquaintances who lean heavily into the
food-replacement (e.g Huel) and even synthetic food game.

    https://huel.com/

    https://www.eater.com/2019/5/14/18623258/impossible-foods-synthetic-lab-grown-meat-science


I'm still haunted by the spectre of Soylent Green.

I'll opt for continuing to dabble in home gardening, aquaponics, and
raising egg-laying chickens.


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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:53 AM
> *To:* friam at redfish.com
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence
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>     Generation X are heavy, risky drinkers. Will anything ever persuade us to stop?
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>     https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/22/generation-x-heavy-drinkers-will-anything-persuade-us-to-stop <https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/22/generation-x-heavy-drinkers-will-anything-persuade-us-to-stop>
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>     "There’s one other factor: the odiousness of comparison. Or, to put that more simply, generation X was never that extreme, it’s just the millennials, or generation sensible, are making us look bad. They drink less overall, and are more likely to renounce drinking altogether. Generation Z drink less still ..."
>
> At least among some subcultures, Generation B(oomer) were much more
> alcohol abusing, not only in our youth (I turned 18 not long after the
> drinking age was (temporarily) reduced to 18 or 19 in many states),
> but in our "middle-age" (day drinkers) and into our twilight years as
> high functioning (or low-demand) alcoholics.  At least you X-drinkers
> had craft brew to hide behind, we were arguing over Coors vs Budweiser
> or lauding the praises of 40oz Schlitz Malt Liquor (for lunch?).   
>
>     "People are so cynical: they say millennials are just taking drugs or smoking weed instead. But that’s not the case: we’ve seen declines in all drug use."
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>     If anything makes me worry about the future of society, it's this Puritanism infecting our youngsters. Alcohol is poison. But the other drugs are much less so. Maybe, just maybe, we'll see loosening of controls (like marijuana, X, and psi) and that will allow DIY body modification, implants, and such to flower. It's important to see it as a spectrum.
>
> Is it a single spectrum?   I propose a few components:
>
>  1. Self Exploration
>  2. Creativity Enhancement
>  3. Medicating for Social Anxiety
>  4. Medicating for Depression
>  5. Self Identity/Expression
>  6. Avoidance
>  7. ...
>
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