[FRIAM] "tech" companies suck

[Gary Schiltz]

Here in Ecuador, group chat is very widespread. Unfortunately (?) it is
mostly through informal WhatsApp groups. Email is *so* last millenia, and
even FaceBook has mostly given way to Instagram, TikTok, whatever. Yuck. I
especially dislike WhatsApp groups because it has even taken over some
institutions, such as the foundation that I'm working with. The biggest
problems are that the identity of each person is tied to their phone
number, and there is no central archive of its content. For the former, if
a person loses their phone, they have no way to recover their chat history,
and unless person B has person A's information (name, etc.), person B only
sees the phone number of person A, hence having no idea who is who until
they add all these people to their phone's contact list. For the second,
institutions tend to lose their collective memory, unless someone is in the
group from start to finish, and somehow maintains an archive of past
conversations.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:32 AM Roger Critchlow <rec at elf.org> wrote:

> I've lately run into two mentions of "group chat" as the organizing
> principle of social media for the day.  You keep different groups for
> different purposes, and you don't let social media into the chat.  I think
> Friam actually functions as a group chat, aside from google scanning
> everything.  But technically it's a Gen-Z thing, so we obviously don't know
> what we're doing.
>
> It was a neighbor group chat that busted the Ted Cruz Cancun getaway plan
> in February 2021, while Texans froze to death or were bankrupted by spikes
> in electric rates.
>
> -- rec --
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 8:53 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's an interesting question. Someone posted a poll on a Mastodon server
>> recently, something like "What is it you want from all this stuff? (E.g.
>> Twitter, Facebook, ...)" The possible answers were things like
>> "Friendship", "Connectedness", etc. There was an "Other", which I filled
>> in. I wrote something like: "The state of the world. When I was younger, I
>> read the newspaper and watched the daily news on one of the big 3 networks.
>> Now, it feels like everything's all fractured. TV news is for ancient, out
>> of touch people. The newspaper is neither local, nor does it tell
>> interesting national or international stories. So, I use these media, like
>> 12-20 different outlets just to get some sense of the state of the world."
>>
>> I wish I had a better answer to "where do you find this stuff". It can be
>> exhausting trying to stay informed. Fora like FriAM help a bit.
>>
>> On 8/13/22 17:57, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>> >
>> > And where do find this stuff glen >_<
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 2:41 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com <mailto:
>> gepropella at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     __
>> >
>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zevd/this-is-the-data-facebook-gave-police-to-prosecute-a-teenager-for-abortion
>> <
>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zevd/this-is-the-data-facebook-gave-police-to-prosecute-a-teenager-for-abortion
>> >
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