[FRIAM] "tech" companies suck

Prof David West profwest at fastmail.fm
Mon Aug 15 22:15:16 EDT 2022


personal anecdote:

when I was fifteen, I took a bus trip from Salt Lake City to Boston, New Yorkand the '65 World's Fair (held two years, 64 and 65), DC, then Nauvoo and the Mormon Trail back to SLC. The tour director noted that I bought newspapers at every gas stop and by the third day I was recruited to deliver a daily recap of the news over the PA.  Most significant even that trip, the Watts riots.

davew


On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, at 10:06 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
> The first movie theater experience I had after COVID had them shut down was watching Tom Hanks wander through NM landscape (filmed here more than set here) settings reading the Newspapers out loud to news-hungry, mostly illiterate, post-Civil-War townies.   He added another layer of curation/editorial value (or as a few towns demonstrated) bias and censorship.  The movie title was "News of the World"... it was an effective commentary/parable on the whole problem of "what means 'News'?", particularly in a time of rapid cultural, economic, political and technological change.  
> 
> Sam Clemens was a reporter (Journalist?) before he was a writer of fictions and commentary. 
> 
>> https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2015/today-in-media-history-in-1863-a-reporter-named-samuel-clemens-became-mark-twain/ 
>> 
> I live my life by aphorisms and anecdotes (maybe not literally, but they do represent a significant influence).    A quote that I have apparently made up (since I can never find the source of it) is misphrased as "I always read the paper two weeks late, because by then it has proven to be wrong or is no longer relevant".   I always attributed this to Twain, but apparently I know nothing.   Another quote attributed (by many) to him is roughly "A man who does not read the newspaper is uninformed, a man who does read the newspaper is misinformed".   I found this to be a nice salve to the harsh abrasions caused by caustic declarations of "Fake News!" that ramped up so drastically with Trump's ascendency.  Rich, regularly coming from a news outlet whose name is so close to "Faux News" to attack all other sources.
> 
> I am sure that Tom and his profession has a lot of perspective to offer, but in the voice of Twain, "I'm not sure we are prepared to receive it".
> 
> - Steve
> 
> On 8/15/22 6:53 AM, glen wrote:
>> It's an interesting question. Someone posted a poll on a Mastodon server recently, something like "What is it you want from all this stuff? (E.g. Twitter, Facebook, ...)" The possible answers were things like "Friendship", "Connectedness", etc. There was an "Other", which I filled in. I wrote something like: "The state of the world. When I was younger, I read the newspaper and watched the daily news on one of the big 3 networks. Now, it feels like everything's all fractured. TV news is for ancient, out of touch people. The newspaper is neither local, nor does it tell interesting national or international stories. So, I use these media, like 12-20 different outlets just to get some sense of the state of the world." 
>> 
>> I wish I had a better answer to "where do you find this stuff". It can be exhausting trying to stay informed. Fora like FriAM help a bit. 
>> 
>> On 8/13/22 17:57, Gillian Densmore wrote: 
>> 
>>> 
>>> And where do find this stuff glen >_< 
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>>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 2:41 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com <mailto:gepropella at gmail.com>> wrote: 
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>>>     https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zevd/this-is-the-data-facebook-gave-police-to-prosecute-a-teenager-for-abortion <https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zevd/this-is-the-data-facebook-gave-police-to-prosecute-a-teenager-for-abortion> 
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