[FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

Marcus Daniels marcus at snoutfarm.com
Mon Jan 28 15:40:57 EST 2019


I would again make a distinction between private stories and public stories.    I may delude myself, but I also have a set of experiences that are only mine and that I either could not or would not share.   My self-stories (and dreams) are grounded in a way the stories I read are not.   A fiction writer is trying to be entertaining, or at least sell books.   An opinion writer is trying to persuade or manipulate.     The actor's story comes from a script, and in that sense the it is static.   A diary is distinct from these.   There aren't the degrees of freedom available in a real life that are available to a writer inventing characters.    Empathy one extracts from a story is not actually empathy, it is something that has been teed up for the reader.

On 1/28/19, 12:01 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" <friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

    I was struggling to find something to disagree with. 8^)  But of course, I found it.
    
    A story is not (purely) imaginary nor a (mere) reformulation of past experience.  I think it's part-and-parcel of consciousness, whatever that is.  We tell ourselves stories all the time, big and small ones.  Is there a difference between a dynamic story and a static story?  [Non]Linear stories?  Multiple story tellers versus an omniscient third party narrator?  Interactive versus passive? [†] Yes, of course.  But they're still stories.
    
    [†] Bandersnatch was interesting: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9495224/
    
    On 1/28/19 10:47 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
    > A story is imaginary or a reformulation of past experience.  It's written down and static.  A story has to fit together or else it is not a story, it is improvisation.   A LEO would have to model the situation and estimate what risks she was prepared to take and to reconcile her job with her own values.    A third situation would be the person that wants to visit different environments and develop the ability to navigate them, without regard to any underlying ideology or power structure behind that environment.   Optionally, that person my retrospectively model the different experiences to find some unifying patterns.
    
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