[FRIAM] alternative response

[Frank Wimberly]

In the paper by Glymour I mentioned the point of view (not necessarily his)
that we are zombies who tell our bodies to go thataway a few milliseconds
after they've already taken off in that direction.

This is one of the steelman theories of mental causation he discusses.  If
I'm using the term correctly.

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On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 3:20 PM glen∉ℂ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> Exactly! If humans have free will, we can program a machine to have it too
> (someday, anyway). And since we don't know how to *construct* free will and
> the evidence against it is accumulating, it's reasonable to claim it
> doesn't exist and the burden is increasingly on those who believe in it to
> make their case.
>
> But note that the construction I spitballed does NOT define free will as
> spontaneous. It's cumulative. In fact, that construction rejects the idea
> that free will is spontaneous in any way.
>
> On 6/16/20 1:39 PM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> > Yes.  I don't think Nick is every going to write such a paper (as
> opposed, say, to participating along with a bunch of you in writing such a
> book).  However, as I work through the correspondence of the last week
> (Gawd what a splatter), I have yet to see any support for the idea that
> there is any fundamental reason why a computer could not be constructed to
> exhibit any free will that humans have.
> >
> > It begins to seem to me that "free will" and "emergence" are the same
> sort of concept and likely to die by the same sword.  Once you define "free
> will" as that which is "spontaneous" (i.e., not explained by anything), you
> have to prepare yourself for the moment when it is explained.
>
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