[FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

Fri Nov 12 18:18:02 EST 2021

I have a friend who cut her teeth as a lawyer (finance) in Hong Kong 
maybe 15 years ago... she has since returned to Australia (via a gig in 
Japan) and *hates* what is happening in HK and can list endlessly the 
friends/colleagues whose lives have been damaged/disrupted by the 
changes there.

This being said, however, it *does* seem like what is happening there is 
the end of a century plus long occupation/colonization. She and her 
friends/colleagues are all professional/merchant class and none are 
ethnically Chinese.  Not surprising the changes are mostly downside to them?

Juarez, Tijuana, Nogales SA all used to feel like US colonies in many 
ways.   They were "returned" to MX proper to some degree by the War on 
Drugs and the Drug Cartel action and now becoming portals for attempted 
immigration from yet more southerly/impoverished countries.   I have a 
lifelong friend who used to run the Zenith assembly plant in Agua Prieta 
SA...  she would claim that their presence there for several decades was 
a huge boon to the people there, as was their strategic (for Zenith, not 
the local economy) withdrawal.  Of course she saw it that way.   My 
brother-in-law who recently retired as the longest-tenured employee (~50 
years) of Freeport McMorran (who bought him up when they bought up 
Phelps Dodge) would insist that it is all "upside" for the people who 
once lived on the landscape where their mega pit-mines were developed 
and where their private armies (FPM,not PD) were in charge of all the 
necessary "rousting" to get and keep those mines 
running/expanding/profit-maximized.

But back to Nick's point (or to yet another of my tangents from his 
point)...   the Buddhist phrase "World as battleground, world as trap, 
world as lover, world as self" seems relevant?  If we consider these 
contexts *only* as traps and battlegrounds, that is pretty much what 
they will be.  Stephen G through his former (and some present) work and 
familial relations in China has chose to *also* look at them (country, 
people, government) through the lenses of "Lover" and "Self)?

On 11/12/21 12:56 PM, Edward Angel wrote:
> We were in Taiwan during their first truly democratic election. The 
> U.S. media was filled with dire predictions of imminent war. The 
> reality was that no one in Taiwan was worried about an attack. China 
> and Taiwan, in spite of the rhetoric, were deeply coupled economically 
> and war would be disastrous for both sides. The only evidence the 
> Taiwanese newspapers reported in as a result of the “tensions” was an 
> increase in the number of prostitutes arriving in Taiwan from Macao 
> and Hong Kong. However, we did note that a foreign tourist was 
> arrested for taking down an election banner as a souvenir which was 
> regarded as serious offense. I doubt things are much different now.
>
> We also spent time in Hong Kong just before and just after it going 
> back to China. For a while not much changed and there were 
> restrictions that prevented mainland Chinese from entering Hong Kong. 
> At that time, China was very dependent on Hong Kong as its economic 
> outlet to the rest of the world and didn’t want to threaten that 
> status. It’s very different now as China has developed many other 
> outlets and consequently they are willing to treat Hong Kong like the 
> rest of China.
>
> Ed
> _______________________
>
> Ed Angel
>
> Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory 
> (ARTS Lab)
> Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico
>
> 1017 Sierra Pinon
> Santa Fe, NM 87501
> 505-984-0136 (home)angel at cs.unm.edu
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>
>> On Nov 12, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Stephen Guerin 
>> <stephen.guerin at simtable.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nick,
>>
>> > Is Hong Kong not being digested as we speak?  Is pressure not 
>> increasing on the Taiwanese?
>>
>> An orthogonal perspective is healing and unification post-occupation 
>> and aggression by foreign powers. ie:
>>
>>   * North/South Vietnam
>>   * Manchuria/China
>>   * East/West Germany
>>   * North/South Korea
>>
>> I am concerned about US military buildup in Taiwan 
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/taiwan-china-us-marines/2021/10/08/20378918-27d8-11ec-8739-5cb6aba30a30_story.html> 
>> after agreeing to one china policy 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-China_policy> in 1979. How did we 
>> feel about USSR flexing its muscle in Cuba?
>>
>> -Stephen
>>
>> 这就是你想让我说的吗？ 我们现在可以在中国推出我们的软件吗？
>>
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