[FRIAM] Has anybody been lookiung at covid numbers

thompnickson2 at gmail.com thompnickson2 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 20 00:37:23 EST 2021


Good to hear from you, Jackie.  A fresh voice on the list.  Always welcome.  Sometimes we regulars bore ourselves to death.  

 

We decided not to meet with the extended family in Houston, a hard decision that I instantly stopped regretting when I saw the new numbers.  The only question in my mind is whether we avoid my son’s family for a week or two when they return.   People keep telling me about vaccinated people they know who have croaked and I am definitely in the vulnerable group … age, diabetes, heart disease --.   There are some folks on this list who are very good at numbers and have vulnerabilities of their own.  I am guessing we will hear from them in time.  I am guessing that unless I am planning to stay in my house for the rest of my life, I should probably not worry about it too much.  

 

Thanks for your message.  Don’t be a stranger. 

 

 

Nick Thompson

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Jacqueline Kazil
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 11:10 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Has anybody been lookiung at covid numbers

 

Hi! Jackie here. Nick, I too can get hysterical about Covid. I left DC for Missouri and lived on a dead-end street in the country with my in-laws for almost a year sharing a bedroom with my three year old and newborn. Then my mom was in an intensive care situation after an accident - for 52 days. This was in Florida during the summer surge -- at one point covid positivity rate was > 25% in the county she was in.  I couldn't leave Florida, because my baby's daycare in DC has a covid policy that you had to quarantine if your house was exposed to a covid positivity rate of >10% & my moms hospital had a policy that said you had to quarantine if you leave the state of Florida, you had a to quarantine (I didn't understand this one. This was a policy for the sake of having a policy. All other states were better places to be). With these two policies in play, despite not seeing my children for more than a month and having to quit breastfeeding, I decided not to travel home... and sometimes life sucks. [As I write this, I feel like this is a simulation in the works.]  

 

In Florida during the time with my mom, I was pushed outside of my comfort zone. I was in an environment where a lot of the population feels differently than I do about safety. I also was walking into hospitals with covid patients where vaccinated nurses were dropping like flies. I gave up a little, because of the stress I only had so much energy to worry about covid. A friend even convinced me to eat in a restaurant indoors -- barely, once. 


I just looked up Santa Fe county, and it is just over 10% covid positivity rate. 

https://covidactnow.org/us/new_mexico-nm/county/santa_fe_county/?s=25691480

Covid positivity rate is supposed to be a signal of knowledge spreading. I would say over 10% right before Thanksgiving is probably a not a good place to be. This means it is spreading and people know, but some don't. With families getting together -- the "some don't" part is not good. 

 

With my experience of being in various environments, I would say that if I were in a place with a rate of 10% or higher, I would worry enough to batten down the hatches for the holidays, because... sometimes life sucks. I would limit the number of people I interacted with. 

 

Also to consider in this equation -- how many people already had covid that already counted in the vaccine numbers. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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