[FRIAM] Google Engineer Thinks AI Bot Has Become Sentient

[David Eric Smith]

Two responses to reading the Lemoine “interview”.  c.e. I didn’t have the patience to finish it all, but got through about 2/3.

Actually, 3 responses.

1. When the whole suspension thing came around in the OP, my first thought, of the google engineer, was roughly the complement to Jon’s comment below: “That’s what too much social media will do to you.”

2. In the first third of the interview, my parse was “It’s a perfect sociopath!”.  I was reminded of segments with Anna Chapman in something — dig dig — here:
https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2012/01/the-big-russian-life-of-anna-chapman-ex-spy-069297 <https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2012/01/the-big-russian-life-of-anna-chapman-ex-spy-069297>
As part of the larger stream of description (by Masha Gessen, Julia Ioffe, and others) of the cognitive environment that the KGB aspires to create as a state of existence.  The idea that deciding whether she is a ditz, a tool, a pawn, a victim, a sociopath, or a professional should come across as a category error.

3. Then they got into the long harangue about the soul and being religious, and I found it indistinguishable from almost-everything I have either been unhappy to get trapped in, or read for a bit, from agents that I believe are part of the human lineage.  That was also when I realized I really have stuff to do and have to stop this particular stall.

Eric


> On Jun 14, 2022, at 8:27 AM, Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> The other day I asked, "Alexa, why does Jeff Bridges look older than I do even though he's several years younger?"  I was thinking she'll never give a reasonable answer to that.  She said, "In his latest film Jeff Bridges was made to look older using CGI."  I don't think that's evidence of sentience.
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> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022, 4:58 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com <mailto:gepropella at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Well, that's the point, right? Poe's law an all? We know Turing knew, far better than most, of the power of sophistry to highlight the edge cases. Sentience is found in those edge cases, not in the fat, meaty middle ... the peri-canny <https://www.etymonline.com/word/canny?ref=etymonline_crossreference <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.etymonline.com%2fword%2fcanny%3fref%3detymonline_crossreference&c=E,1,dGtEWXkNmX1poSO03-SiBPQyjtcONmCjwlZt_hldw2JBpGJaemPCt1V3m8YkOzn_xd0j9I09fAgbiFgxtZ0M8MTUIxPCoC0BdaMpWfyQKQ,,&typo=1>>.
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> On 6/13/22 15:50, Jon Zingale wrote:
> > FWIW, I still feel that the Turing test is worse than non-sense. Worse
> > in that it suggests a feasible program, which it doesn't. Like opposing
> > free will with determinism, from a false opposition comes a seductive
> > limit. I wonder if we will ever hear from the Google employee themself,
> > and this appears to be the best I can hope for. It has always appeared
> > to me that Turing was joking. It only confuses me that others don't.
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