[FRIAM] Sunshine protection act
Steve Smith
sasmyth at swcp.com
Thu Mar 17 20:11:22 EDT 2022
> I hope the imperial measurement system is the next thing to go.
Yah... I can't wait for 10 hour days with 100 days a year and 10, 10 day
months or would it be 10 10 m-week m-months made up of 10 m-day m-weeks
and 10 m-hour m-days? 10,000 m-hour-things a year? Each m-hour made up
of 100 m-minutes and 100 m-seconds per m-minute? or 10,000 m-seconds per
m-hour? I think that is roughly 52 old-minutes per m-hour so about 2
m-minutes per old-minute and about 1.6 old-second per m-minute? Is
that 10^8 m-seconds per year? And a purist would probably insist on
there being 10&10 m-seconds per year, though we could instead use
m-msecs as our atomic unit of perception, though that would be 10^11 ?
Or settle for m-centi-secs? I might barely be able to perceptually
recognize things at that level since it is vaguely down near the
frequencies where
I'm not sure how to get the sun and moon to sign up for all that. Or
revert everything to sexigesimal instead... maybe add a finger on each
hand to simplify the counting thing?
In the kitchen and with lumber and cordage I find halves and quarters
and even eighths easier to work with than tenths. I get the
convenience of metric for calculation with decimal number systems...
but dividing things into halves and halves of halves and even thirds is
a pretty compelling intuitive process. Sexigesimal (60) invokes 5ths as
well which then supports/allows/extends the ability to divide by 2,3,5
or more elaborately 360 base with 3,4,5,6 divisors. I find that
playing cards (solitaire and some rummy-like-games) as a child informed
me in base 4 (suites) base 13 (ace-king) and therefore base 52
intuitions which ultimately spilled over into weeks of the moon(th) and
moon(ths) of the year. Quartering the Moon and Sun cycle gives us
intuitively compelling (registered on nature's evident rhythms) basis
for 7-day weeks and 3 moon(th) Seasons of sorts. I've never
experienced directly a lunar calendar but have friends who are Muslim
who end up with a lunar-solar sense of annual scheduling. I think if I
lived in a more temperate/equatorial geography, lunar/lunar-solar might
be more obvious. Also if I lived more outside of a climate controlled
house and did more night-time hunting/warring, the phases of the moon
would be (yet) more evident/important.
- Gramble
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 1:00 PM cody dooderson <d00d3rs0n at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For those of you who don't get all of your news from XKCD,
> https://xkcd.com/2594 .
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2022, 3:03 PM Gillian Densmore
> <gil.densmore at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 5:34 PM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> On 3/15/22 3:29 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
> > Please pass
> >
> https://www.cnet.com/culture/senate-unanimously-passes-bill-to-make-daylight-saving-time-permanent/
>
> >
> > I had to google that this wasn't early April fools, or
> that I was
> > misreading things.
>
> except they got it backwards? People who *like* getting
> up and going
> to work before the sun comes up should find a job where
> that is
> rewarded, or at least accepted... there are many. But how
> many folks
> want to walk into work from the parking lot in the dark at
> 8AM?
>
> I'm a bit of a purist, wanting the sun to be at "high
> noon" at noontime
> and the sunrise and sunset roughly symmetric around that
> moment. It is
> a tiny and ideological thing, so I get it that nobody else
> cares.
>
> Agreed that noon. 'high noon' is when the sun is at the top of
> the sky.
> And we have. Or at least probably have any number of simple
> tech fixes to get a lot of sunshine through the day for any
> given location. such that noon at *35° 41' 29.5584'' N and
> 105° 56' 39.0588'' W*. For Santa Fe, NM
> means that sensors and some kind of geo-location hack for
> clocks, computers etc know to make adjustments through out the
> year to make sure noon means the sun is pretty close to the
> top of the sky on a y axis for those coordinates.
> lol but I have a feeling words like: probabilities,
> statistically even, Y-axis, optimal, random, and simply give
> us enough F'n sunshine. For the white house would make to many
> peoples eyes glaze over. just getting to have one or the other
> is a pretty good solid step. Dynamic Time adjustments can come
> along shortly.
> What's kind of funny is Arizona has been quietly sitting
> around going we're working just fine, you don't need to...ok
> how long is this weirdness going to keep going.
> I wonder how many tongs got bitten on to not do a told you so.
> and how many more going to be pretty sore for quite a while
> if/when it passes.
>
> but... whatever... I have very few schedules enforced on
> me, and those
> that are are generally not as arbitrary as the MDT/DST
> differences.
>
> > Now it just needs to get passed the court jester and man
> who looks and
> > sounds like a constipated turtle: Mconnel.
> >
> > Gives me a little hope for UBI and a NHS.
> >
> I'd like to think that a unanimous decision like this
> might help break
> up some of the corrosion in the system keeping it locked
> up, but I think
> the GOP (goofy old party) has too much invested in things
> that the UBI
> and NHS would confront.
>
> LOL I like how you think. And alas, probably right.
>
> I googled how many places don't have a summer or winter clock:
> a lot don't. Is this graph right that Japan noped out of a
> summer and winter clock system?
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_by_country
> so what I'm reading is two clocks is limited to only a few
> places and the rest of the globe is working pretty well with
> one type of clock? coolness!
>
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