[FRIAM] Joscha Bach claims Microsoft sentient but not conscious

[steve smith]

My litany of examples of entities in my life all share the fact of 
"living in a bubble of nowness".   The fact that those bubbles overlap 
to different degrees seems to contribute to our "mutual" apprehension of 
one another's consciousness (not symmetric).

The non-animal entities at the best probably have very narrow bubbles in 
space (2x their extent) and very wide in time (hours, seasons, years) 
compared to ours.   The (in)famous Black Mesa a mile or so from me or 
Buckman Mesa (looming over me) in their basaltic-plug geology would seem 
to have a geospatial bubble a tiny fraction their dimension but a time 
apprehension of hundreds of thousands of years?

I'm stretching the concept of "what means consciousness" half-playfully 
and half-seriously.   Seeking partly to niggle out from the crowd how 
much of what we attribute to another entity's "Consciousness" is highly 
projective of our own (self) Consciousness?

OK... we do need to split the hair of "sentient" from "conscious" I 
suppose...

Split Away!


On 7/15/24 7:46 PM, Jon Zingale wrote:
> An interesting collection of ideas regarding consciousness. For 
> instance, not meta cognition but immediate perception. A bubble of 
> nowness, etc... I am not certain if the lecture is interesting, but it 
> seemed relevant.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLbHm-bJQE&t=908s 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLbHm-bJQE&t=908s>
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