[FRIAM] Unpleasant dreams

glen gepropella at gmail.com
Wed Jun 5 10:23:31 EDT 2024


I'll try again:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-48337-7

In particular, see Figure 2:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-48337-7/figures/2
"A Cortical distribution of statistical differences in delta (A) and beta (B) power (t values, Wald statistics) for CE vs NE. Left column: 20 s of sleep preceding movement onset (CE: n = 32 episodes from 14 participants, NE: n = 11 episodes from 7 participants). Right column: from 4 to 20 s after movement onset (CE: n = 31 episodes from 14 participants, NE: n = 10 episodes from 7 participants). Only voxels with significant effects appear colored. LL left lateral, RL right lateral, LM left medial, RM right medial view."

It's not that EEG is more or less important than, say, eye movement or fMRI or whatever. But many of these methods argue against the naive combativeness of Nick's rhetoric.

On 6/4/24 22:54, Jochen Fromm wrote:
> AFAIK dreams are more frequent in REM (rapid eye movement) cycles. If our alarm clock waves us up in the middle of such a cycle we are probably more likely to remember parts of a dream.
> https://teachmephysiology.com/nervous-system/sensory-system/consciousness-and-sleep/

> On 6/4/24 13:06, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
>> Another question:   Decorticate animals may writhe and pass and even groan.  Are they dreaming?
>> 
>> n
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>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:11 PM Nicholas Thompson <thompnickson2 at gmail.com <mailto:thompnickson2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>     Qyestions about dreams;
>> 
>>     When do dreams happen. do they happen when we are asleep, or are they memories  generated by the flooding of the brain with stimulation about awakening?
>> 
>>     Is dreaminess a specific physiological state:  For instance, if you set your self the task of writing a story immediately upon awakening, will it be more dreamy?  Have you noticed that it's much more difficulty to remember a dream if you don't "lock it in" on first awakening.
>> 
>>     Why is memory of dreams so variable.   IMHE, it's very easy to increase or decrease the amount one dreams or the amount one remembers of one's dreaming.   Retaining or gernerating dream experiences requires some effort.


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