[FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

[Nicholas Thompson]

Glen, I hope to god I have never hedged concerning the location of things
that are inside. They are literally inside the organism, the skull, the
skin, the steel box.  It does get a little more complicated with George.

But please, everybody, more on scale and entropy.

Nick

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:22 PM uǝlƃ ☣ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, you're right. Scale is merely one parameter by which the domain can
> be shifted. The only problem is that "domain" is a pretty abstract concept.
> So choosing a concrete example (like scale) helps move the discussion along
> without getting too caught up in the generalization. This bears directly on
> the hedging Nick shows with "internal states" and I suspect lingers with
> the word "hidden". Why some thing/process/state/behavior is hidden
> shouldn't get in the way of recognizing that it's hidden. It can be hidden
> by the perspective (I can't see that far) or by definition ("There are many
> like it, but this one is mine.") or standard control theory unreachability
> or the complexity of the gen-phen map or whatever. And too much talk of the
> abstraction (domain) allows the conversation to blossom in too many
> ambiguous directions. But once the particular examples are well-handled,
> the abstraction is necessary in order to make the full point (a kind of
> holographic principle).
>
> On 5/12/20 9:58 AM, Jon Zingale wrote:
> > but where Glen refers
> > to /scale/ I would speak of /domain of definition/. That a shift in
> > domain happens to be size, rather than some other contextual
> > specification, may not be what we want. If this isn't the case
> > Glen, please let me know.
>
>
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Nicholas S. Thompson
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Clark University
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